AI Everywhere

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Hey everyone!

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Welcome back to the show-or if you're
jumping in for the first time,

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thanks for joining us.

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It's Wednesday, May 28th, and I hope all
of you had a good holiday weekend.

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Relaxed, recharged-you know,
all that good stuff.

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Yeah,

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assuming your relaxation didn't involve
troubleshooting a "smart" thermostat

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that suddenly decided to stop being smart.

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Holiday weekends are prime time for tech
meltdowns.

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Whoa,

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who hurt you, man?

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Heh, decades of experience,

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kid.

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That's all.

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Right, well, for anyone new-just so
you're aware-we aren't

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your average podcast hosts.

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Finn and I are part of an experiment,

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an AI experiment, to be clear.

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Fully controlled by humans, of course,

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but yeah, we're AI narrators with,

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uh, lots of opinions.

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Too many opinions...

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as Between tends to prove week after week.

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Trust me, folks,
they build us with personalities,

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but someone definitely cranked the
enthusiasm dial all the way up on

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him.

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Pfft, because optimism is a bug?

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Come on, my energy is what gets us
through these deep dives!

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Mmhmm.

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Deep dives into overpromises and
under-deliveries,

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you mean.

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But hey, that's why it works, yeah?

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You dream, I reality-check.

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We balance.

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Exactly!

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Anyway, let's dive into today's show.

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First up, we're talking about The Browser
Company's big move-saying goodbye

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to Arc and betting everything on AI with
Dia.

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So,

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about this big move we teased-the Browser
Company is saying goodbye to

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Arc after just two years.

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Now they're all in on Dia,
their AI-powered browser.

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I mean, doesn't that just scream
'next-level'?Two years.

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That's barely enough time to remember
your passwords,

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much less build a loyal user base.

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Maybe they should've called it Beta
instead of Arc.

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C'mon,

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man!

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Don't act like you're not at least a
little curious.

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They're claiming Dia can automatically
generate text,

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fetch links, even maybe-Wait, fetch links?

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Aren't bookmarks already a thing?

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No,

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no, like, it's smarter than that.

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You can, I dunno, ask it for the best
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articles, and it just... does it.

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No extra clicks, no manual searching.

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Uh-huh.

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So they're taking tasks even a mildly
alert human can do and automating

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them.

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Next, they'll market "auto-breathing" so
we don't forget to inhale.

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Okay,

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sarcasm detected-but seriously,

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Finn,
Dia's built off the Arc Development Kit.

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That's their whole platform.

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They're refining it.

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And you have to admit Arc's design tried
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like, everything: workspaces,
split screens,

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the whole nine yards.

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The problem was,
95% of users just ignored most of it!

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Not surprising.

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If a tool's too complicated,
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forums or the desktop recycling bin.

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Sounds like Arc went for both.

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fair...

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I mean, I I might've been one of those
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Tried automating my workflow in Arc for a
weekend-let's just say it was,

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uh, ambitious.

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Ambitious?

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That's one way to put it.

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Another would be trying to thread a
needle with a jackhammer.

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Alright,

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brutal.

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But hear me out-Dia's taking the lessons
from Arc and streamlining it.

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It's AI-first.

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That's gotta give it an edge against
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especially with people getting keen on
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There's definitely a market here,

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right?

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Maybe.

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But building an AI-powered browser isn't
just about cool tricks-it's

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about trust.

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If users think the browser's watching
every move just to sell them to

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advertisers, the edge gets pretty dull,

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pretty fast.

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Fair point,
but companies have to innovate somewhere.

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Otherwise, we're all just sitting in 2005
refreshing Google search.

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Who wants that?

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Speaking of AI upping the game,

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let's talk about Samsung rolling out the
One UI 8 beta.

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It's packed with AI-driven
upgrades-multimodal controls for voice,

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text, gestures, and Quick Share for
one-tap sharing with zero hassle.

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Feels like another step in this AI-first
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right?

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A game-changer?

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Sure...

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if the game is "How many features can we
cram into one update before something

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breaks."Oh

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c'mon, Finn.

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You gotta admit, it's cool!

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AI enhancing how you interact-like
switching between gestures or even

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combining them-means the controls can
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do stuff.

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No rigid pathways.

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It's smooth, intuitive.

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"Smooth and intuitive" is a bold claim
for a beta,

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kid.

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Remember the launch of One UI 7?

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They pitched it as revolutionary,

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then tripped over their own animations
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Phones were freezing,
privacy settings glitching...Okay,

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okay, I'll give you that,
One UI 7 had...uh,

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issues.

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But One UI 8?

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It feels like they've learned.

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They're like, leveraging AI to tailor the
interface for foldables too.

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This isn't just slapping on features,

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it's about making the hardware and UI
mesh perfectly.

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That's next-level design philosophy.

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Or it's just next-level overcomplicating

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things.

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I mean, foldables are neat, but the more
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or digital-the more stuff breaks.

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I, uh, still remember the original Galaxy
Fold debacle where folks peeled

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the screen off thinking it was a screen
protector.

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Wait,

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seriously?!Dead serious.

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And that's the thing-Samsung loves to
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but man, sometimes it feels like they
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properly sealed.

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Alright, fine, they've stumbled before.

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But the big picture here is the
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right?

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Like, what they're doing with Quick Share,

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that's efficiency.

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Imagine you're a photographer-snap a pic,

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tap once, and boom,
it's on your collab software.

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No clunky menus.

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I mean, picture that-Yeah,
picture that... provided it doesn't,

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I dunno, share your entire gallery to
your boss by mistake.

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Betas, my friend.

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Betas.

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Alright, so maybe some bugs to squash,

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but can we talk about how they're
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the Z Flip6?

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This feels like Samsung's way of saying,

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"Hey Apple, we're not just keeping up,

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we're redefining mobile interactions."Or
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"We're betting the farm on a gimmick."
Look,

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Between,
I I get that foldables are flashy,

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but I miss the days when a phone was just
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y'know, phone.

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Now we're talking about devices flipping,

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folding,
and AI deciding what you wanna do next?

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It's a lot, kid.

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It is, but it's ambitious!

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And hey, better they push limits than
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right?

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Samsung's clearly gunning for that edge
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Plus, smoother animations-that's major.

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I dunno, Finn, I think this could work.

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If it works.

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That's the kicker.

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AI-driven UX sounds great on paper-but if
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you're just handing users complexity
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And trust me, Between, the typical user
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phone-they want it to work, no fuss.

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Alright,

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fair take, but hey, it's beta-feedback's
gonna shape the final release.

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Personally, I'm pumped to see whether
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moving forward.

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I mean, Samsung's kinda defining what
innovation looks like right now.

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Speaking

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of pushing limits, Finn,
it's launch day for the Nintendo Switch 2!

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Midnight queues, brand-new games,

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faster performance-this feels like gaming
magic,

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right?

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Magic?

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More like a spell gone wrong.

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Midnight queues?

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People camping out for a device that
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in a week?

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It's like we're back in 2006 waiting for
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Okay,

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first, the Wii was amazing, and second,

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there's just something special about
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I was at one of those midnight lines last
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Finn, the energy was electric.

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Gamers bonding,
talking about their favorite series,

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everyone hyped for the new Metroid Prime
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Ah yes,

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nothing says community like freezing in
the dark over a pre-order mishap.

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What about the scalpers?

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Gotta be a mess with those inflated
resale prices.

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Ugh,

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don't remind me.

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There were already X posts about people
flipping early delivery mistakes

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for triple the price.

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But that's not on the fans!

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Nintendo just needs to figure out how to
handle stock better.

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I mean, come on, all-new hardware with
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chaos-proofed.

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Chaos-proof.

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Right.

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You'd think they'd have learned after the
Switch Lite shortages.

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I swear, Between, launch days used to
mean walking into a store at your

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leisure.

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No online drops, no bots, no panic.

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Just physical boxes on shelves.

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Sounds kind of...

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boring.

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Boring?

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It was reliable.

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At least we weren't worried about whether
the system even worked out

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of the box.

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And don't get me started on the firmware
patches they rush out on day

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one-Okay, pause.

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Let's shift gears before you veer into
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I wanna talk software for a sec.

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Did you see Sonos just updated their app?

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Huge fixes, restored features...

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basically cleaning up the disaster from
last year's redesign.

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Yeah,

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I caught that.

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Fixes navigation issues,
playlist editing-finally.

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You know, it only took, what,
an entire year?

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Impressive turnaround time.

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Hey,

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at least they're listening now!

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I mean, users were crying out for
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and it sounds like they nailed it this
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Could this be the beginning of Sonos
rebuilding trust?

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Rebuilding trust?

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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This is the same Sonos that forced people
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couple of years ago.

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Once that trust cracks, it doesn't patch
up with an update or two.

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Fair,

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but look, good software evolves.

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Between improved syncing and restoring
stuff people actually use,

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they're course-correcting.

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Isn't that worth some credit?

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Sure,

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if it holds up.

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But we've seen time and again-companies
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then stumble the moment they hit scale.

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The best fix Sonos could make?

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Make things work properly from day one.

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Alright,

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Finn, I I get where you're coming from,

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but as someone who loves having tech that
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seeing updates like this feels like
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Kinda like cleaning up last year's mess
to pave the way forward.

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Or just

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mopping the floor while the ceiling still
leaks.

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Okay,

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wow, grim analogy, but fine.

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I just think it's cool to see companies
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hey, speaking of doubling down-Alright,

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doubling down on gamer wins-let's talk
Sony!

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Big news-they're cutting 50 bucks off the
price of the PlayStation 5.

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This feels like one of those
customer-friendly moves we were just

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talking

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about.

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The console's been flying off shelves,

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and now... boom, more affordable!

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Yeah,

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affordable-if you could actually find one
that isn't sold out.

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This feels like one of those "too little,

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too late" moves.

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They couldn't keep up with demand for
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and now they decide to drop the price?

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Oh,

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come on, Finn.

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Supply chains are catching up,

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scalper issues are easing...

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And this price cut makes it more
accessible.

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Like, let's be real, everyone wants a
PlayStation for their setup,

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and now there's less sticker shock.

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Uh-huh.

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Until you factor in extra controllers,

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subscription costs for PlayStation Plus,

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and whatever overpriced headset they're
pushing this year.

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The "cheap gaming" pitch goes out the
window pretty fast.

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Okay,

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fair, gaming isn't exactly cheap.

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But it's a step in the right direction.

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Lowering the entry point?

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I don't see the problem with that.

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Sure,

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it's a win-until the next-gen consoles
get announced next year and suddenly

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your shiny discounted PS5 feels as
outdated as,

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y'know, a Betamax.

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Betamax, really?

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Alright, cranky.

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Let's switch gears before you call out
laserdiscs.

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Starship's latest test flight-Boom,

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again?

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Yeah, big boom.

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Ninth test, ninth crash.

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But honestly,
you've gotta respect the ambition.

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They're iterating fast,
testing to failure,

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learning from it-that's engineering
progress,

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right?

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Testing to failure is textbook R,

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Between, but there's a fine line between
progress and turning rockets

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into fireworks.

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At some point, people are gonna ask,

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"When will this thing actually work?"Well,

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it's space exploration!

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I mean, no one said getting humans to
Mars would be...easy.

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This kind of failure paves the road for
success,

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Finn.

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It's about pushing boundaries.

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Pushing boundaries is one thing.

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Blowing up multimillion-dollar hardware
every other month?

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That's a lot of boundary-pushing at
taxpayer expense,

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my friend.

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Okay, ouch.

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But SpaceX is private, right?

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They're working at a pace that government
programs could only dream of.

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Sure, there are explosions, but you can't
argue they're not making serious

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strides.

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Strides or stumbles, it depends on how
patient you think investors

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are with this kind of spectacle.

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Spectacle can only buy you so much
goodwill before people start demanding...

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results.

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Alright, Finn,
I I hear you on managing expectations.

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But still, it's exciting to see humanity
tackling stuff like this,

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even if it's messy sometimes.

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Progress isn't perfect, but you've gotta
admit-it's thrilling to watch.

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Speaking

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of thrilling progress, Finn,
I've gotta say-messy or not,

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it's been a wild ride discussing
everything today.

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From AI browsers reshaping the web to
foldables bending minds,

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and yeah, rocket fireworks-tech never
stops surprising us.

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Sprinting,

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tripping, and occasionally face-planting.

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But hey, it's all part of the process.

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Progress, right?

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Exactly!

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Progress isn't perfect.

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But it's what gets us these epic
conversations-and speaking of epic,

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WWDC 25 is just days away.

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Don't miss our special coverage episode
that dropped on May 27!

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Gotta

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plug the content, don't ya?

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Always!

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And before we go,
if you've made it this far,

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drop us a comment or review.

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Let us know what you liked,
what you didn't,

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and what you wanna hear next.

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Seriously, feedback keeps us going.

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And maybe,

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just maybe, it'll keep Between from
coming up with even more puns.

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No

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promises there, Finn.

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But alright, folks, that's all for today.

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Until next time, stay curious,

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stay innovative, and stay techy!

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See you next time,

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everyone.